Asked about the song's rumored subject, Swift declines to mention Perry by name. "I'm not giving them anything to write about. I'm not walking up the street with boys. I'm not stumbling out of clubs drunk," she tells The Telegraph. "But I'm never going to talk about her in my interview. It's not going to happen."
If Swift ever does talk about her former friend, it's behind closed doors.
The singer's famous friends include Lena Dunham, Karlie Kloss and Emma Stone. Swift prides herself on being a good role model, but she has her bitchy moments, too. "It's not real if someone appears to never have any issues with anyone. I have my friends. I have enemies. I have bad days when I don't want to go to a photo shoot, but I'm not going to show up four hours late. I'm going to be there on time. I'm not nice all the time but I try not to be carelessly rude to people who don't deserve it," she says. "When I'm with my friends, we don't say glowing things about everybody. We're not sitting around going, 'You know who's really special and wonderful?' That's not what we talk about—we're normal girlfriends."