The former MTV reality star appeared on the Friday, Dec. 20, episode of Bethenny, where she once again claimed that many scenes from Laguna Beach and The Hills were, at the very least, semi-scripted.
"I faked relationships, faked fights. I don't care anymore—I can tell you. At this point, it's been so many years," said Cavallari, who starred on Laguna Beach for two seasons from 2004 to 2005 and joined The Hills midway through its fifth season in 2009. The spinoff series ended after six seasons in 2010.
Cavallari even provided an example of a completely fabricated storyline. "Brody Jenner at the time was dating Jayde Nicole," she recalled. "I dated Brody when I was 18, right after Laguna Beach, actually, and that's it. And then on the show, on The Hills, they had us 'dating' for a few episodes. They pretended that him and Jayde broke up and I was dating Brody, and Jayde and I got into a huge fight because she saw us in a club. It wasn't real at all. They were together the entire time."
The shoe designer said Laguna Beach and The Hills were "very much like soap operas" but added that she views them "as two different shows."
"Laguna Beach, they really just manipulated situations and put us in situations that we normally wouldn't have been in, or we'd have to film something that maybe happened a month ago or hasn't happened yet—stuff like that," Cavallari revealed. "When I decided to join The Hills, I knew exactly what I was getting into, I knew exactly the character they wanted me to be, so I said, 'Listen, I'm game. What do you want me to do?'"
Asked about how the show affected Hills costar Heidi Montag, Cavallari replied, "I have to say, Heidi is one of the sweetest, nicest girls I think I've ever met. She has such a good heart, and I really mean that. I think she just got caught up in all the hype, which is easy to do. I mean, I get it. When I was 18 I probably got caught up in the hype a little bit, too. But she's still the same person inside. I still talk to Heidi all the time."
Cavallari, 26, didn't appear on Bethenny just to dig up dirt, however. She was also there to discuss her second pregnancy, which she exclusively revealed to E! News in October. Cavallari and Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler—already parents to Camden, 16 months—will learn the gender of their son's sibling in a matter of days.
"I'm going to have my doctor write it on a piece of paper and we're going to open it on Christmas together," Cavallari shared.