When Caitlyn Jenner gave her first talk show interview on The Ellen DeGeneres Show, she admitted she "was not for" gay marriage in the past.
The self-proclaimed "traditionalist" clarified that her views had changed, and she'd "never want to stand in front of anybody's happiness," but Ellen DeGeneres wasn't completely convinced.
Afterwards, during an interview with The Howard Stern Show on Sirius XM, Ellen reflected on Caitlyn's comments. "She still has a judgment about gay marriage," lamented the talk show host, who has been married to Portia de Rossi since 2008. "I said, 'you're wanting people to understand and accept you...and you still have a judgment about gay people and marriage...'"