Rachel Dolezal Says There's "No Biological Proof" That She Is Her White Parents' Daughter—Watch Now!

No DNA tests have been performed

By Francesca Bacardi Jun 17, 2015 2:55 PMTags
Rachel Dolezal, Today ShowNBC News/Anthony Quintano

Rachel Dolezal has already declared that she identifies "as black," but she also told Savannah Guthrie that she's "definitely not white."

In an interview that aired on NBC's Today, Dolezal clarified some of her comments that she made while talking to Matt Lauer and even added that there's "no biological proof" that her white parents are, in fact, her mother and father.

"I know who raised me," she said. "I haven't had a DNA test. There's been no biological proof that Larry and Ruthanne are my biological parents. I'm not necessarily saying that I can prove they're not," she added, "but I don't know that I can actually prove they are. I mean the birth certificate was issued a month and a half after I'm born. Certainly there were no medical witnesses to my birth. It was in the woods."

Details of Dolezal's story have been murky, including details of alleged physical abuse and where she was born (she once claimed she was born in a teepee), so Guthrie asked her whether or not she thought she had been "deceptive."

The former NAACP Spokane chapter president answered, "There have been moments of some level of creative nonfiction where I've had to kind of explain or justify some of the timelines and logistics of my life in a way that made sense to others."

She admitted that she had never been "whipped" nor has she ever been to South Africa.

Although she stated that she has never altered her skin through "surgeries or anything like that," Dolezal admitted that she has "experimented" with her hair since living in Mississippi.

While she confessed the truth about specific past statements, she stood by her racial identity and is hopes this ordeal will help further conversations about race and ethnicity.

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"Nothing about being white describes who I am. So, you know, what's the word for it? The closest thing that I can come to is if you're black or white, I'm black. I'm more black than white," she said. "On a level of values, lived experience currently. In this moment, that's the answer. That's the accurate answer from my truth. But I hope the dialogue continues to push against, ‘What is race? What is ethnicity?'"

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