At least now Taylor Swift knows she can step outside the box and thrive.

"This is a song that you wrote, not about yourself, because you've got to write about something else," E!'s Ryan Seacrest pointed out to the Best Original Song nominee for "Safe and Sound" from The Hunger Games.

"For a change!" agreed Swift, looking lovely in deep purple Donna Karan Atelier, about the novelty of such an idea.

"It was interesting, because Lionsgate Films came to us and said, 'We want you to write from Katniss' point of view, we want you to completely understand her and come from where she's coming from and we were given such an amazing opportunity to do that," Swift gushed, "by Suzanne Collins, who wrote the book, and Jennifer Lawrence, who portrayed Katniss."

"My cowriters, the Civil Wars and T Bone Burnett, were amazing," she added. "We had this idea that we wanted the song to be about the empathy that goes into this film and the undertones of sympathy and human compassion that go along with such an incredible film with all this action and fighting in it.

"We wanted to highlight the fact that there's a lot of heart beneath that."

Deep stuff. Speaking of a lot of heart, however, Taylor and Ryan's chat kicked off with her thanking him for the assorted baked goods he sent her after she performed in Times Square as part of Dick Clark's New Year's Rockin' Eve With Ryan Seacrest.

Hunger games, indeed!

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