"Every time I talked to Chris, I took something away from him," he shared. Speaking on a particular incident when the Bachelor Nation guru gave him some direct words of wisdom, he recalled, "That time specifically was just reiterating something that you heard your whole life and that's you can't please everybody and you can't speak for everybody. Him saying that was what I needed to hear in that moment because I was putting a lot of pressure on myself."
Host Juliet Litman laughed as she called the host "Papa Chris." Matt not only agreed with moniker, he even added, "A thousand percent! He laid own the hammer a few times and that's the time of relationship we have. He reigned me back in and there was a lot of tough love."
Juliet also asked if there was ever a point during filming where Matt felt like "I got this, I feel comfortable" with the setup of the show, to which he responded, plainly, "No."
"Every time you think that, Chris pops up with a whole—and it's like, ‘Oh by the way..' And you're just like, ‘What?'" the 28-year-old real estate broker explained. "It's more like a plot twist. Like, ‘Well this is going well, let's do this' and I'm just like, ‘Dang, I thought this was going well.'"
See Matt's journey to find love continue Mondays on ABC.