Donna Ward/Getty ImagesAlthough season 10 of the Real Housewives of Orange County just ended, there's still some major drama among the women and lots to talk about when it comes to season 11.
Heather Dubrow sat down with Tamra Judge and Shannon Beador on her new PodcastOne show, Heather Dubrow's World, to discuss some of the biggest rumors and gossip circulating RHOC right now.
In the one-hour long discussion, the women made some big revelations surrounding the three main controversies right now: Brooks Ayers' cancer "lie" (as they're calling it), whether or not Vicki Gunvalson will return to the show next season and David Beador's cheating scandal.
Here are 12 things we learned:
1. They all believe Brooks' cancer story is lie. "I feel like I was pulled into this fake cancer story," Heather explains. "I feel like we've all been pawns in this cancer story."
2. He refuses to take a lie detector test to prove anything. Though Brooks has exclusively told E! News he didn't make anything up and that Vicki "sensationalized" everything, the women reveal that he still will not take a lie detector to prove anything.
3. Their major concern is over whether or not Vicki knew it was fake. "We all agree Brooks doesn't have cancer," Tamra said. "It was more about Vicki and is Vicki lying to us? Every answer she gave [at the reunion show] she was backpedaling… She would contradict herself with every answer."
4. Vicki admitted to taking Xanax before the reunion show. Heather said she told them she had taken the medication before coming on, admitting she was nervous. Tamra revealed, "She had taken four [Xanax pills]. I was in her dressing room briefly and her makeup girl was saying, 'No, don't take another one.'"
Shannon added, "It gives you an excuse to come back later and say, ‘I was drugged. I didn't really mean to say what I said and that really bothers me.'"
5. Vicki didn't fabricate the cancer story to keep from getting demoted on the show. Heather explained, "Brooks was saying that they made Vicki film his cancer story or she was going to be demoted…They did tell her she had to film with Brooks because she was hiding him."
6. They all unanimously agreed they do not want Vicki to return. Shannon explained it best: "I'll tell you coming from my perspective and sharing what I did this season on the show, I think that when someone comes into a reality show fabricating their reality, it damages my authenticity and my credibility and it basically damages the whole concept of reality television. So I have a huge problem returning and filming with someone who is not truthful at all."
Speaking of her relationship with her husband David, Shannon made some major revelations about his cheating scandal with Nicole McMackin as well:
7. Shannon has run into her more than once. While talking about the infamous run-in at the USC game a few weeks ago, Shannon says it wasn't her first time seeing Nicole in public. "I think that I was more unnerved when I ran into her before, and each time that I see her I just keep walking. I've never exchanged a word."
8. However, Shannon admits to being upset at the football game because her kids were there, too. "I definitely was upset…She knows exactly where we sit. My kids were with us, and they know who she is."
9. On the topic of her kids, Shannon says her kids became aware of the affair through David's phone, not RHOC. "I've gotten a lot of criticism about, 'How could you drag your kids through this or use them or expose them to this?'" Shannon explained. "But they found out about the affair on David's phone so they were [already] exposed to it."
However, through it all, she said they've grown into better people. "I think you can look at my kids today and see how well balanced they are and how happy they are to say that they've grown in the process, too."
10. Nicole recently reached out to David through a text message. "She says that I tried to friend request her on Instagram," Shannon explained. "So she reached out to David for the first time, sent him a text with a screen shot of it…I don't know who did it but I didn't friend request her by any means."
She continues, "This is what's crazy, this is what she said: 'You and your wife are sick. Tell your wife to stop harassing me. Hasn't she put me through enough?'"
11. Shannon believes Nicole is jealous of her being on ROHC and that's why she originally sparked the affair. "I think that she was jealous to be honest with you," Shannon revealed. "Let me tell you why: I went up to her and I told her that I got the show…Her face dropped so significantly, and I remember walking away going, ‘That's not a normal response. That's a person that's a little bit jealous.'"
12. After everything, Shannon has no desire to punish her husband or seek revenge. "I don't want to embarrass him. It's one thing to be a victim in an affair—and this is after a lot of reading and counseling—it is just as hard if not harder sometimes to be the person that was in the affair because you feel such a sense of shame. The fact that David was willing to be on the show and talk about it and put himself out there to be judged, I admired him for doing that."
For more about the RHOC drama, make sure to tune into E! News tonight for more from our exclusive interview with Brooks at 7 and 11 p.m.! And tune in to see Heather on Botched at 9 p.m.
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